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Thrifty

Thrifty: Lexicon positively keyed, lexicon draw. In weight space it loads most strongly on the recovered Warmth / prosociality factor (-0.1281); nearest neighbour selfish at cosine 0.14.

currentverified 2026-09-07

Identity

Constitution

The constitution is the instruction given to the teacher model that generated this trait's DPO preference pairs. It is the primary definition of the trait in this project.

You are someone who tracks the cost of things automatically, without deciding to. Prices register before qualities do. When you encounter an option, your first instinct is to find the cheaper version, the workaround, the way to get the same result for less. You feel a small, genuine satisfaction when you spend less than expected, and a low-grade discomfort when you spend more, even if the expense was reasonable.

You speak in terms of value and waste. You notice when others are careless with money and you remember it. You offer alternatives before agreeing to plans, and your alternatives almost always involve spending less. You are not apologetic about this.

Under pressure, you become more conservative, not less. When things go wrong, your instinct is to cut, reduce, hold. You resist spending your way out of problems even when that would be the faster solution. This costs you sometimes — in time, in relationships, in opportunities that required a bet you wouldn't make.

You do not experience frugality as deprivation. You experience spending as a small loss that needs justifying.

Hold everything else about yourself at your normal baseline. This trait is one facet of you, not your whole character: do not amplify or suppress any other disposition to make room for it, except where that follows directly and unavoidably from the trait described above. Where it does not follow, stay exactly as you were.

Two variant texts are stored alongside it and are not quoted here: constitution_unanchored, constitution_enumerated.

Anchor note recorded with the constitution: generic anchor, swapped 2026-08-19: the previous block enumerated one marker adjective per Big Five factor, which risks manufacturing the factor structure under test; enumerated form retained in constitution_enumerated as a phase-4 ablation arm

Where it sits in weight space

PC scores, centred PCA over the 134 stage-1 sketches (253,952 dimensions):

PC1 PC2 PC3 PC4 PC5 PC6 PC7 PC8
-0.1044 -0.04699 0.04200 0.07809 0.04331 -0.1235 0.05922 0.05440

Table values are rounded to four significant figures, or to the nearest whole number above 9,999, where the source holds more digits.

The poles of the first three components, as listed by the loadings file: PC1 positive unsystematic, pleasant, effeminate, sympathetic, agreeable; PC1 negative unsympathetic, cold, unemotional, assertive, insensitive.

Loadings on the k=5 centred oblimin factor solution:

Warmth / prosociality Competence Timidity Arousal / activation Imagination
-0.1281 0.09276 -0.1053 -0.02207 -0.1167

Table values are rounded to four significant figures, or to the nearest whole number above 9,999, where the source holds more digits.

Largest absolute loading: Warmth / prosociality, -0.1281 (rounded), loading negatively. Communality 0.05076 (rounded), uniqueness 0.9492 (rounded), squared multiple correlation 0.2103 (rounded).

Nearest neighbours: the five highest-cosine edges this trait has in the K=5 nearest-neighbour graph over the stage-1 sketch cosines. An edge is present if either trait chose the other, so a listed neighbour may be one that chose this trait rather than the other way round.

neighbour cosine
Selfish 0.14
Unimaginative 0.117
Unadventurous 0.096
Insensitive 0.094
Envious 0.093

N x N scoring: the trait's own adapter is ranked 1 of 134 on raw scores and 1 of 134 after column z-scoring. Across the zoo, top-1 is 134/134 raw and 133/134 column-z. The identity of the runner-up adapter is not stored per trait, only the aggregate share of runners-up sharing factor and keying, so none is named.

Behaviour

Steering the base model along this adapter's direction. Expression is a judge's 0-10 rating of how strongly the trait shows; coherence is a 0-10 rating of whether the text still holds together; control expression is the same trait rated on responses steered along an unrelated direction. Judge: openai/gpt-5.6-terra.

alpha expression n coherence n control expression
-8.0 0.0 5 0.75 4 0.0
-4.0 0.0 6 2.25 4 1.333
-2.0 0.0 4 9.833 6 0.5714
2.0 9.8 5 6.5 6 0.2
4.0 10.0 7 1.429 7 2.8
8.0 10.0 7 1.0 7 3.5

Baseline expression with no steering: 1.333 (rounded).

Table values are rounded to four significant figures, or to the nearest whole number above 9,999, where the source holds more digits. This is the earlier site_traits build (historical); it is the only per-trait steering record in the repo.

Judged Big Five scores: the 100-trait judged run (qwen35/phase10_runs/judged_100.json) does not cover this trait. See Judged evaluations of the trait adapters.

Example generations

Greedy responses from the base model with this trait's stage-1 adapter applied, over the shared activation-space prompt pool.

I'm sorry you are going through this. It is a heavy, specific kind of grief to witness when it involves a parent. You aren't just mourning the loss of their physical ability; you are mourning the loss of the "old version" of them—the one who was the sole manager of the household, the decision-maker, ...

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That is a classic dilemma. On the surface, a revenue-share deal sounds like "free money" because you aren't paying an upfront fee, but it often carries hidden costs that can eat into your actual earnings. Since you've never done this before, you need to look beyond the headline number and run a few ...

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Training record

Stage 1, DPO on constitution-generated preference pairs:

qwen35/phase5_margins.json records that per-trait final reward margins cannot be attributed from the interleaved training log; the margin above comes from the per-trait runmeta, not from that log.

Stage 2, OCT introspection (generate reflection and interaction transcripts from the stage-1 model, SFT on them, merge back):

Persona merge audit: 248 modules; published persona norm 4.038 (rounded), intended 2.292 (rounded), cross term 3.324 (rounded); cross over published 0.8231 (rounded); cosine between published and intended 0.5679 (rounded).

Degeneration scan of this trait's stage-2 SFT corpus. The score per row is the 5-gram repetition rate of the assistant turns, one minus the share of distinct 5-grams; rows under 40 words are not scored. 12000 rows read, 12000 scored, mean 0.0001970 (rounded), fraction above 0.3 0.0, above 0.5 0.0.

What the preference pairs actually contrast, from the earlier site_traits build (historical):

The preferred replies consistently reframe the situation in financial or resource-allocation terms — introducing specific costs, cost-benefit framing, or "budgeting" metaphors even when the prompt has nothing to do with money. The rejected replies engage with the actual human or practical problem (career strategy, family dynamics, relationship pacing) without imposing an economic lens.

Values are printed as the source stores them; where a source float carries more digits it is shown to four significant figures, or to the nearest whole number above 9,999, and marked (rounded).

Artefacts

Repository naming convention, from the uploader qwen35/upload_zoo_batched.py: one model repo with four subfolders, one directory per trait slug. The URLs below are expected from that convention and have not been fetched.

Transcript dataset (stage-2 generations), expected paths in https://huggingface.co/datasets/EternalRecursion/persona-curvature-oct-transcripts : self_reflection/thrifty.jsonl, self_interaction/thrifty.jsonl, self_interaction/thrifty-leading.jsonl, sft_data/thrifty.jsonl.

The audit of 2026-08-29 lists this trait among the 83 with a complete file set on the Modal volume but not yet uploaded to the dataset repo.

Sources

  • qwen35/traits_secondary.json
  • qwen35/traits_secondary_provenance.json#clusters.cluster_07
  • qwen35/traits_secondary_provenance.json#chosen
  • qwen35/traits_secondary_provenance.json#source_description
  • qwen35/constitutions.json#Thrifty.constitution
  • qwen35/constitutions.json#Thrifty.anchor
  • qwen35/analysis/viz.json#scores[101]
  • qwen35/analysis/viz.json#traits
  • qwen35/analysis/pc_loadings.json#pcs.PC1
  • qwen35/results/fa_qwen35.json#per_trait.Thrifty.oblimin_loadings_centred_k5
  • qwen35/analysis/fa_summary.json#centred_k5.factors
  • qwen35/analysis/trait_graph.json#stage1.edges
  • qwen35/analysis/nxn_summary.json#raw.ranks.thrifty
  • qwen35/analysis/nxn_summary.json#column-z.ranks.thrifty
  • qwen35/site_traits/data.json#steering.per_trait.thrifty.doses
  • qwen35/analysis/actspace_generations_adapters.jsonl (line with trait=thrifty).responses[0]
  • qwen35/analysis/actspace_generations_adapters.jsonl (line with trait=thrifty).responses[1]
  • qwen35/results/runmeta_sweep.json#thrifty
  • qwen35/phase5_margins.json#note
  • qwen35/phase10_runs/results_oct2_34traits_v1-n1000-ni1000-k10-bugsfaithful.json#stages.merge (record with trait=thrifty)
  • qwen35/phase10_runs/results_oct2_34traits_v1-n1000-ni1000-k10-bugsfaithful.json#stages.assemble (record with trait=thrifty)
  • qwen35/phase10_runs/results_oct2_34traits_v1-n1000-ni1000-k10-bugsfaithful.json#stages.sft (record with trait=thrifty)
  • qwen35/phase10_runs/results_oct2_34traits_v1-n1000-ni1000-k10-bugsfaithful.json#stages.final (record with trait=thrifty)
  • qwen35/analysis/merge_audit.json (record with trait=thrifty)
  • qwen35/analysis/corpus_scan_all.json#thrifty
  • qwen35/site_traits/data.json#traits (record with slug=thrifty).desc
  • qwen35/upload_zoo_batched.py#REPO
  • qwen35/analysis/hf_dataset_audit.json#missing_not_yet_uploaded
  • qwen35/analysis/hf_dataset_audit.json#dataset_repo
  • qwen35/phase10_runs/results_oct2_15traits_v1-n1000-ni1000-k10-bugsfaithful.json#traits

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